TO: Hardworking Students in Doing Justice, Fall 2007
FROM: R. B. Taylor
DATE: 10/22/07
RE: Your responses to the Nutter/Targeted Enforcement Zones (TEZ) Exercise last
Thursday; responses to some ATTIC comments
TEZs
You all did a terrific job with the role playing exercise last Thursday. Each group came up with a lot of ideas, and City Council asked a lot of good questions.
Couple of Suggestions
If you were caught in a situation like this again, here are two minor thoughts for developing a better presentation. (1) Stick to fewer points. Put a main point out there, then take the time to elaborate on that point, and explain why you are in favor of it. There is a tendency in this kind of situation to just present folks with a list. You can make a stronger case if you make your point, then give the audience reasons why you favor this point. You make an argument, you try and convince them. (2) All the groups used the readings somewhat. That was good. You could have made even stronger points if you had used the assigned reading in a more integrated way. For example, giving a quote from a reading that supported your argument. Quoting from an authoritative source is a good way to make your point of view seem even more convincing. I still remember getting killed in a high school debate because of this.
What You Thought Was Most Important
I asked each of you on your way out to mention what you
thought were the most important points you heard on the PRO side, in favor of
TEZs, and the most important point you heard on the CON side, against the TEZs. I went through your answers and tried to group similar
comments, and came up with the following counts of different points. This
focuses just on the most popular points, not on all of the ones you folks
mentioned.
Most important PRO
21 Violence/crime goes down
9 Senior officers could supervise line
officers, thus helping prevent inappropriate police aggressiveness or discretion
5 Putting a curfew on youth probably
will help keep them out of trouble
5 Citizens and police could work
together, with citizens assisting police, keeping an eye on them
4 People might carry guns less / there
would be less gun violence
4 Juveniles will have a curfew, which
will be good.
Most important CON
18 Small businesses will be
adversely affected, will lose customers, may have to close, this will hurt
residents
14 There are greater chances for police profiling, or police
inappropriately exercising their discretion
6 If police use a lot of (potentially
excessive force) this may make residents angry at the police
5 The crime will just be displaced to
a different location
2 The root causes of crime are not
addressed
2 The sense of community locally will
be adversely affected; it will be harder for residents to gather together, and
the program may generate concerns
ATTIC MID SEMESTER REVIEW
I have looked at the comments you shared with the ATTIC mid-semester reviewers. There were many helpful comments. I will be bearing many of those in mind as the semester continues. Very useful and to those of you who took the time to comment: thanks!
There were a couple of points that I thought I would respond to in writing. Hopefully my response may make sense to those raising these concerns. Here goes.
* Syllabus. Some folks commented it was “absurdly long and it is hard to find things in it.” HINT: It is searchable! Here's how:
- go to my main web page: www.rbtaylor.net. You will see a SEARCH box right in the middle of the lower portion of the page.
* Maps. A "number of them [you] said that they [maps] are hard to follow and that too much class time is spent on analyzing them." REPLY: remember early on I said that social space was mapped onto physical space? Looking at maps is a great way to get a quick view of the structure of society, which is part of what you are supposed to be learning about on the skill side. It is also a good way to get a snapshot of different features of Philadelphia, which is also something we are working on. Further, this is a skill that will stand you in good stead. If any of you all out there really really really want to be assured of a job when you graduate, learn GIS (Geographic Information Systems). Making and decoding maps like we have seen here are a key part of that.
*
Readings. "A number of students
expressed that the articles are long, and only a small part of any given article
is discussed in class. They feel that they do not need to read the whole thing
to understand the part that is discussed." REPLY: I have tried to be very
focused in directing you to specific parts of articles. If you look at the
sequence of topics page (http://www.rbtaylor.net/0060_fa07_sequence.htm)
there are very specific page numbers for most of the readings. YES, we can
only get to a portion of each piece in class, because our time is limited, but
you want to be able to answer the questions for the readings, even if we do not
get to it in class. There is this thing called a final coming up....
*
Census data. “I don’t get what census info has to do with 'Doing
Justice.' " The census data help us understand differences in the
populations with which
justice agencies interact. These differences across populations are, we have
been suggesting, critical determinants of how justice agencies act. Census data
allow us to see where there are differences in status, nativity, and race, for
example. Looking at the Hazleton City census data helped us put the locals'
concerns in context. Were these census data perfect? No. Were they relatively
accurate? Yes. Did they suggest numbers much lower than your "public"
perceptions? Yes. Census data is one of our key windows into understanding
how the society with which justice agencies interact is organized.
*
Email. One of you remarked: “Never returned my email.” REPLY: This
may be true. But it would help me if you email me at the address listed on
the syllabus tuclasses@fastmail.fm
because I check that more frequently. Do NOT go to Cherry & White pages and use
the email listed there because I do not scan that address as often during the
semester.
*
Old stuff. One of you commented: “Some of the older readings are
just too old.” REPLY: This is a great comment! These old readings were selected
for a purpose. Consider this: if the materials covered in the
older readings described issues that never happened again, then there would be
no point to "older" readings. But if the points described in the older
readings keep happening again and again and again, then don't you begin
to suspect that there may be a pattern? There were corruption probes of the
Philadelphia Police in 1928, 1938, 1980s, and 1990s. Lots of good things have
happened during that time of course, but doesn't this suggest a pattern? The
Wickersham Commission suggested that public opinion blamed foreign born for
crime in the 1920s, but data from 1930 suggested they were more law abiding. Now
we have many arguments about how illegal immigrants are causing a crime wave, at
the same time we have (Sampson) data from Chicago suggesting foreign born are
more law abiding.
Further, if the pattern you see is really old but still current, because it is
described in these older readings but is also still happening now, doesn't that
make you want to look very carefully at proposals for
reform? Remember, the subtitle
of this course is, courtesy of Yogi Berra (not Yogi Bear): Deja vu all over
again.